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  • Genus Homo:  …that consciousness is not a localized phenomenon.

    Make sure the sources didn’t mean that consciousness is not localized at any particular location within the brain.

    If your sources do explicitly state that consciousness can be found outside of a brain, please list some of them- I honestly have never heard anyone say that and it…[Read more]

  • I am not the “average poster” here.

    You might be surprised because we share a lot of traits. Like, a lot of traits. [‘All’ is a lot, right?]

    It’s nice to know someone else out there has problems with remembering names of family members.

     

  • What does a snake inducing vomiting have to do with anything?

  • It’s possible that throughout the history of our species there have always been LGBTQ(…) individuals, but evolution kept their numbers low. Now that we have no evolutionary pressures working on us, the numbers of LGBTQ people are on the rise. Same as lots of other genetically passed on traits that don’t give a survival advantage, but are on the i…[Read more]

  • I think point three is required 99% of the time. Don’t ID proponents claim that the fine tuning that lead to us was done intentionally so that we are here? The whole point of their claim is that things are the way they are because they’re supposed to turn out this way. I haven’t heard an IDer claim the universe was created with no plan in mind.…[Read more]

  • ID uses an intelligent designer to explain the origin of the universe and life. This designer must:

    • be outside of time and the universe (omnipresent),
    • be powerful enough to do anything within our universe (omnipotent),
    • know everything about the universe and life (omniscient)

    Is there any way to describe the intelligent designer that ID…[Read more]

  • My favorite ‘supercar’ has always been the Lamborghini Countach from back in the 80’s.

    It wasn’t the fastest (but it was fast) or most expensive (but it was expensive) or rarest (but it was rare), but it was the most extreme looking one. My bedroom walls had posters of all colors and angles of those cars. Sadly I didn’t keep any.

  • Their minuscule number doesn’t require legal protection

    Human rights aren’t only doled out to groups with a minimum membership. They’re human rights, and therefore available to humans.

  • Widdershins:  What you want to talk about is the evidence for intelligent design.

    It sounds fun and profitable. That’s a nice combo.

    I have no friends who believe in ID- they’re all straight-up Christian with no interest in diluting their beliefs by adopting a sneaky backdoor route to get their dogma thrust in everyone’s face. Thus my…[Read more]

  • Tee:  It’s perfectly easy to understand.

    An analogy can convey complex concepts more clearly than a long-winded essay. But some pedantic person pretending to not understand the point ruins it.

    Maybe if everyone made it the goal to understand rather than make debate points, we could make progress.

    I’m an optimist, but my optimism is tempered by…[Read more]

  • Write4U:  A puddle does not retain memory, it’s a liquid and does not retain any shape or pattern.

    Communicating online this is tough.

    I’m almost certain that you know that I know that it’s only an analogy and is in no way meant to represent the existence sentient rainwater. But I don’t know for sure, so just in case you don’t know that I kn…[Read more]

  • Sherlock:  Puddle’s are incapable of thinking. If a puddle could think then it would be quite justified in thinking this though.

    A puddle existing 2000 years ago would be justified in thinking this. But would a puddle be justified in thinking this if it were educated with 20th century scientific knowledge?

     

  • Sherlock: …so you are seeking to construct a case against me…

    The construction is all yours. All Lausten is doing is pointing to it.

    Martyrs impress me only if they are genuine. You’re working way too hard to be one. Don’t rush it. Your ideas are so weakly supported that if you keep trying to advance them you will inevitably be written off…[Read more]

  • I did a search for Greg Cochran. OOF! A few of the sites that promote his ideas are pure racist garbage.

    His views make me think he might soon be appointed by Trump to head something to do with health.

    Thatoneguy, feel free to push prejudiced, ignorant, conspiracy theories, but don’t expect anyone with more than a dozen brain cells to fall for them.

  • I think it’s unfair to make society accommodate trans people as they’re an extremely small segment of the population.

    Accommodating people is not hard when all you have to do is let them live.

    We accommodate people with long hair and people who drive unnecessarily large pick-up trucks and people who like steampunk, so how is it unfair to also acc…[Read more]

  • 3point14rat replied to the topic Intuitionist Model in the forum Humanism 1 week ago

    It might be something missing in their ability to reason and/or communicate that prevents them from cooperating more.

    The benefits of cooperation are huge, so there’s definitely an evolutionary advantage to doing it. So the fact they don’t might mean they can’t (or at least can’t do it well enough for it to be a significant part of their…[Read more]

  • As far as inspiring life lessons, I think the advantage goes to LOTR over Star Wars.  e.g.:

    Hands down. Sam’s quotes on life alone could fill a book.

    There really are some timeless and eerily timely lessons to be found in it.

  • Tim, did you like the LoTR books and movie?

    I read the books a bunch of times since the late 80’s (I’m halfway through The Two Towers at the moment). The movies were surprisingly good, which is amazing considering the epic nature and deep history behind everything.

    The fact they messed with and eliminated some parts was an unfortunate necessity,…[Read more]

  • Widdershins: But yes, scientific method could evolve if it needed to.

    Yes, that ability is baked into the scientific method. It would be very unscientific if someone came up with an improvement to the method, proved it worked, but ‘science’ didn’t adopt it.

    I’m not sure what Flacus it trying to get at by asking lots of odd questions. Hopefully…[Read more]

  • CC, you typed these phrases:

    …weaponizing of doubt…

    That is a beautiful way of describing how the proper application of skepticism has been incorrectly and nefariously used as an argument against the methods and practice of science. Nicely done.

    …deliberate bastardization of “true” facts…

    I also hate willful ignorance. I’ve said it bef…[Read more]

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