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  • #240368

    Lausten
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    Cannabis oil has had high reviews in terms of treating dementia and cancer however it is still not prescribed (uk)
    If something cheap and easy is so effective for such illnesses that make up the biggest mortality rate why is it not being regulated and prescribed for such?
    Because cancer and demential treatment/medication is worth billions and is massive business globally, if cannabis was to have more research to the affects of treating such illness and was proven effective then it would cause a detrimental effect to pharmaceutical companies and insurance companies. These companies wouldn’t be able to charge the NHS (for example) aprox £30.000 per person for basic cancer treatment as posed to a few hundred pounds.
    In my opinion there will never be a cure for such illnesses, as sadly I think it has become a profitable business.

    Okay, either you need to remove the word “science” from your name, or explain, scientifically what you are saying.
    Show me where that £30.000 goes, and who exactly profits off of it? Show me where they are spending some of that to repress the studies of medical marijuanna. Pretend like you are in the board room of a pharmaceutical company, making this pitch about how you can profit from people dying.
    Or, skip all that and show me these “high reviews”. Or was that a joke?

    #240376

    (information purposes)
    How cannabis oil works:
    CBD (Cannabidiol) binds on to abnormal cancer cells, as the THC (Tetrahydrocannabinol) causes a increase in ceramide which drives cell death, a normal healthy cell does not produce ceramide in the presence of THC, therefore with a more targeted approach to the individual cancer.
    How Cytarabine works:
    Cytarabine works by stopping the cancer cells from multiplying. It does this by inhibiting the production of the cells’ genetic material, DNA and RNA. Both DNA and RNA are needed for growth and multiplication of cells. Cytarabine causes a deficiency of DNA and RNA in the cancer cells, and this causes the cells to grow in an unbalanced way, (STILL GROWING) resulting in the death of the cells. Unfortunately, cytarabine also affects normal, healthy cells, those that multiply quickly, such as blood cells and hair cells. The most important side effect is on the bone marrow where blood cells are made.
    So as you can see a drug that has had millions pounds invested into it has a very high risk and damages other cells, where CBD only attacks abnormal cells. furthermore world wide cancer research are not funding cannabis oil (currently)
    From 1920 to the present time, we have made little progress in the treatment of adult cancers. So, a person who gets prostate cancer or breast cancer today will live as long as a person who got it in 1920.” (Charles B. Simone, M MS M D Founder, Simone Protective Cancer Centre)
    So when it comes to people making money out of peoples lives bare this in mind – A full course of treatment with palbociclib (breast cancer drug) costs £79 650, which campaigners say the manufacturer is vastly overpricing the drug.
    They say it could be made and sold for a profit for £1 per pill, but say n fact it is currently sold for 140 times more, the National Institute of Health and Care Excellence (Nice) made a decision not to recommend the drug because the cost was too high. Health bosses estimate that around 5,500 people in England would be eligible for treatment with palbociclib.
    Richard Sullivan, professor of cancer and global health at Kings College London – “When a drug is refused by NICE there’s only one reason it’s refused – the company has knowingly overpriced the drug”
    Palbociclib is now available after some delay, this was used as a example in terms of denying treatment over cost, who knows how many people died due to the delay in availability.
    See the report by the independent where cancer drugs were purposely made more expensive to fall in line with European “target” prices, and Aspen Pharmacare plotted to destroy stocks of life-saving medicines during a price dispute with the Spanish health service
    As for the reviews of CBD oil, just google them as it would take a very long tim to give you all the cases and details – “Why are people terrified when they hear the word cancer? Because they know it [conventional cancer treatment] doesn’t work.” (Dr. Julian Whitaker, M.D. Founder, Whitaker Wellness Institute)
    If I was on the board of a pharmaceutical company and I wanted to profitize on peoples lives i would just give a drug outstanding PR and stick a top dollar price tag on it so it got rejected by NICE and target it at high end private insurance companies where people pay a premium for cancer drugs not on the NHS and private clinics, like Pfizer.

    #240377

    Cannabis oil has had high reviews in terms of treating dementia and cancer however it is still not prescribed (uk)
    If something cheap and easy is so effective for such illnesses that make up the biggest mortality rate why is it not being regulated and prescribed for such?
    Because cancer and demential treatment/medication is worth billions and is massive business globally, if cannabis was to have more research to the affects of treating such illness and was proven effective then it would cause a detrimental effect to pharmaceutical companies and insurance companies. These companies wouldn’t be able to charge the NHS (for example) aprox £30.000 per person for basic cancer treatment as posed to a few hundred pounds.
    In my opinion there will never be a cure for such illnesses, as sadly I think it has become a profitable business.

    Okay, either you need to remove the word “science” from your name, or explain, scientifically what you are saying.
    Show me where that £30.000 goes, and who exactly profits off of it? Show me where they are spending some of that to repress the studies of medical marijuanna. Pretend like you are in the board room of a pharmaceutical company, making this pitch about how you can profit from people dying.
    Or, skip all that and show me these “high reviews”. Or was that a joke?
    (information purposes)
    How cannabis oil works:
    CBD (Cannabidiol) binds on to abnormal cancer cells, as the THC (Tetrahydrocannabinol) causes a increase in ceramide which drives cell death, a normal healthy cell does not produce ceramide in the presence of THC, therefore with a more targeted approach to the individual cancer.
    How Cytarabine works:
    Cytarabine works by stopping the cancer cells from multiplying. It does this by inhibiting the production of the cells’ genetic material, DNA and RNA. Both DNA and RNA are needed for growth and multiplication of cells. Cytarabine causes a deficiency of DNA and RNA in the cancer cells, and this causes the cells to grow in an unbalanced way, (STILL GROWING) resulting in the death of the cells. Unfortunately, cytarabine also affects normal, healthy cells, those that multiply quickly, such as blood cells and hair cells. The most important side effect is on the bone marrow where blood cells are made.
    So as you can see a drug that has had millions pounds invested into it has a very high risk and damages other cells, where CBD only attacks abnormal cells. furthermore world wide cancer research are not funding cannabis oil (currently)
    From 1920 to the present time, we have made little progress in the treatment of adult cancers. So, a person who gets prostate cancer or breast cancer today will live as long as a person who got it in 1920.” (Charles B. Simone, M MS M D Founder, Simone Protective Cancer Centre)
    So when it comes to people making money out of peoples lives bare this in mind – A full course of treatment with palbociclib (breast cancer drug) costs £79 650, which campaigners say the manufacturer is vastly overpricing the drug.
    They say it could be made and sold for a profit for £1 per pill, but say n fact it is currently sold for 140 times more, the National Institute of Health and Care Excellence (Nice) made a decision not to recommend the drug because the cost was too high. Health bosses estimate that around 5,500 people in England would be eligible for treatment with palbociclib.
    Richard Sullivan, professor of cancer and global health at Kings College London – “When a drug is refused by NICE there’s only one reason it’s refused – the company has knowingly overpriced the drug”
    Palbociclib is now available after some delay, this was used as a example in terms of denying treatment over cost, who knows how many people died due to the delay in availability.
    See the report by the independent where cancer drugs were purposely made more expensive to fall in line with European “target” prices, and Aspen Pharmacare plotted to destroy stocks of life-saving medicines during a price dispute with the Spanish health service
    As for the reviews of CBD oil, just google them as it would take a very long tim to give you all the cases and details – “Why are people terrified when they hear the word cancer? Because they know it [conventional cancer treatment] doesn’t work.” (Dr. Julian Whitaker, M.D. Founder, Whitaker Wellness Institute)
    If I was on the board of a pharmaceutical company and I wanted to profitize on peoples lives i would just give a drug outstanding PR and stick a top dollar price tag on it so it got rejected by NICE and target it at high end private insurance companies where people pay a premium for cancer drugs not on the NHS and private clinics, like Pfizer.

    #240379

    If you are copying and sharing quotes, please offer links, or citation, to original sources.
    Hmmm.
    https://justtreatment.org/news/2017/11/8/emmas-palbociclib-campaign-your-questions-answered
    http://www.bbc.com/news/health-41693246

    #240381

    Lausten
    Participant

    As for the reviews of CBD oil, just google them as it would take a very long tim to give you all the cases and details – “Why are people terrified when they hear the word cancer? Because they know it [conventional cancer treatment] doesn’t work.” (Dr. Julian Whitaker, M.D. Founder, Whitaker Wellness Institute)

    Sure, if I wanted to confirm your bias, I would “just google it” and see all the hits you see. Except I wouldn’t ignore all the ones that say this is junk science, like you are doing. Obviously cannabis has medical uses, or there wouldn’t even be a discussion. Just not the uses you are claiming.
    All cancers are different. So when I see statements like the first two quotes you put up, claiming one medicine affects “cancer cells”, I’m immediately suspicious. It’s not like I’ve never read anything on this topic. I would be afraid to calculate how much THC I’ve consumed, so I have no particular agenda here. I was wearing a N.O.R.M.L. T-shirt, probably before you were born.

    #295557

    Fernandez
    Participant

    My wife suffers from ALZ and is in a ALZ care facility. She suffers back pain and I was lead to believe CBD ointment might help. I was told she needed a medical marijuana card and the issuing doctor could prescribe or recommend a treatment, namely the CBD ointment. After being told I would get a card and recommendation by e-mail I discussed it with the facility administrator who said he needed a prescription. He said he had 3 of 4 other residents with a prescription from the same place he referred me to for the medical card. After several phone calls and going back and forth between the doctor and the administrator several times (they preferred not to speak with each other) I learned the following.

    The doctor claimed they were the only ones in the California Modesto area that issued cards and recommendations but never prescribed for it. He said there was no way to write a prescription for any form of marijuana product. The facility on the other hand will not administer anything without a prescription, not even an aspirin or a Tums. Our PCP does not discourage usage but will not write a prescription. They all say that there is no problem in my giving it to my wife myself. That of course is impractical not only because of the distance I have to drive but to be effective it might need to be applied more than once a day. I was told the whole issue of marijuana is in a state of flux as cities and counties attempt to legislate amidst state and federal law conflicts. My assumption is that the medical field and caregiving facilities are afraid of legalities. Unless maybe there is coverage under research or clinical trial. Anyone have a solution to this situation?

    #297371

    william jackson
    Participant

    Marijuana and Cannabis have high reviews for medically treating like anxiety, cancer patients and improving appetite. CBD sold in gels, gummies, oils, supplements, extracts, and THC is the main psychoactive compound in marijuana. It available in oils, edibles, tinctures, capsules, and more.

    #297983

    Markus Wilson
    Participant

    According to the medical research, it is found that plenty of health benefits are associated with medical marijuana. Some of them are listed below, please have a look:

    . Reduce chronic pain

    . Muscle spasms

    . Glaucoma

    . Migraine

    #298014

    Daisy Moore
    Participant

    Yes, William Jackson

    Marijuana not only treats like cancer & anxiety but also there is a chance for possible harms of marijuana.

    Marijuana can also pose some harms to users who use it. Also while the most common effect of marijuana is a feeling of euphoria which is “high”.It also can lower the user’s control over the movement of anxiety & paranoia. Smoked marijuana delivers THC and other cannabinoids to the body. The effects can also differ based on how deeply and for how long user inhales.

    What does the American Cancer Society say about the use of marijuana in people with Cancer?

    #298018

    MikeYohe
    Participant

    Today the government has separated the marijuana into two classes. THC and CBD. William Jackson may not have made that clear. Might I suggest an addition to your question. What does the American Cancer Society say about the use of THC versus CBD’s in people with Cancer?

    Cannabis Treatments Endorsed by the American Cancer Society

    https://cannabismd.com/health/cancer/what-cbd-oil-treatments-are-endorsed-by-the-american-cancer-society/

    #298020

    Daisy Moore
    Participant

    Oh! mike Yohe tq for your information. What is the American cancer society’s position on clinical cannabis Marijuana??

    #298021

    Daisy Moore
    Participant

    The Usage of medical cannabis is increasing, most commonly for pain, depression & anxiety. Some of the data suggest abuse of prescription drugs may be decreasing in states where medical cannabis is legal. Coming to CBD vs THC they both have the exact same chemical make up ie. 21 carbon atoms,30 hydrogen atoms & 2 oxygen atoms.

    #298056

    MikeYohe
    Participant

    An aspirin a day is good for you. Aspirin is bad for you. It has been ping-ponging back and forth for the last four decades. We lock up glue and paint because of abuse. Today in the store I saw some of the laundry soap was behind lock and key at Walmart.

    As far as cannabis. I first saw it being used in the beginning of the 60’ by beatniks at coffee shops. I have not heard that it’s hurt anyone. We must thank our government for blocking all the research on cannabis for the last five decades. We will know more when we find out why we have cannabinoid receptors located in the brain and in the lungs, liver and kidneys. The endocannabinoid system is in our immune system and in the hematopoietic cells. That is part of the stem cells. Point being, we may have missed out on some of the best medical therapeutic healing do to political bias.

    I blame the Republican Party and Christian Movement more than anyone for damage caused by political actions.

    The biggest problem I see is with the THC. It acts like alcohol. The more you consume the higher your tolerances become. And like alcohol only a small percentage of people become addicted. The goal is to have no one addicted. Like nuts, some people are allergic. We don’t band nuts. The people are supposed to control themselves. My hope is that science will come up with a pill that will take away the addiction.

    32 percent of people who try tobacco become dependent.

    23 percent of those who try heroin.

    17 percent who try cocaine.

    15 percent who try alcohol.

    9 percent who try marijuana.

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