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  • #332924
    @mriana
    Keymaster

    @sree

    The US is no less stable than the major western countries of Europe. Moreover, it is the pre-eminent economic power on the planet.

    Don’t fool yourself sree, the dotard has destroyed pretty much everything- the economy, security, and stability. All of that and more. We are not an economic power anymore.

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    #332934
    @thatoneguy
    Participant

    The US is no less stable than the major western countries of Europe. Moreover, it is the pre-eminent economic power on the planet. If the illusion of democracy – the belief that the government is of the people, by the people, for the people – did not affect America as a going concern since its founding, then this fraud is not a bad thing. May the people win again this November.

    I didn’t mean to imply it’s a bad thing, just that it’s probably necessary.  Europeans seem more cynical (and realistic) about politics than Americans, but Europe is less stable than America and far less relevant geopolitically; maybe that is proof enough of it’s necessity.

    #332935
    @thatoneguy
    Participant

    Don’t fool yourself sree, the dotard has destroyed pretty much everything- the economy, security, and stability. All of that and more. We are not an economic power anymore.

    You should try to make sense sometimes.

    #332936
    @mriana
    Keymaster

    I don’t know what doesn’t make sense to you, @thatoneguy. It’s in English.

    #332937
    @mriana
    Keymaster

    @sree

    May the people win again this November.

    One more thing, the people didn’t win, because the majority didn’t vote for the dotard. The EC voted against the people, probably paid off by Russia and/or the dotard, but whatever the case, the EC did not vote the way the people wanted in 2016. Again, the dotard is trying to steal the election and has even admitted he is. He has admitted he’s tampering with the USPS so votes by mail doesn’t arrive in time for the election and is slowing COVID-19 relief in the hopes that will make it harder for people to vote. The problem with slowing down the USPS and taking away the sorting machines, is that people, especially veterans, don’t get their medicine that comes through the mail. The dotard admits he’s trying to rig the election, but no one seems to be doing anything about it.

    #332945
    @lausten
    Keymaster

    They’ve just been empowered like never before in American history. — CC

    You and I have very different views of history. The plantations were the economic engine of this country that helped build our ability to, ironically, declare ourselves free. When once again we made a declaration of freedom after the civil war, it was seen to be too much trouble and the north traded electoral votes for Rutherford B Hayes in exchange for looking the other way while the principles of the 13th and 14th amendments were violated. Not long after the Civil Rights Act, Nixon started his secret war, that wasn’t much of a secret. When were conservatives not empowered?

    #332949
    @mriana
    Keymaster

    All the constitutional amendments are currently being violated concerning voting. The dotard doesn’t want people to vote, in the hopes he will remain in control of the U.S., thus continue to destroy the U.S. He’s had his cronie remover sorters from the USPS in an effort to slow the mail down, among other things, such as denying money for the USPS to deliver votes. He even admits to screwing with the election. This should get him arrested, but apparently not. With veterans not getting their meds and his disrespect of the military, I’m surprised the military doesn’t go into the WH and arrest him. They have the power, but I guess there are some legal issues with that or it’s not by the book, possibly considered a coup, and they want to play by the book to get the dotard, so that the charges stick. I could see how that would be considered a coup though, given that the military could end up in control- however, if Biden wins the election, that could very well happen if the dotard refuses to leave the WH. Biden, being the lawful winner of the election, in a possible scenario, can order the military or secret service, to arrest and remove the dotard and his family from the WH, if he refuses to leave. Maybe that’s what the military is waiting for, because then it would be by the book. I’ve heard those such as Randi Rhodes, Rachel Maddow, Stephanie Miller, Thom Hartmann, and others talk about such a scenario possibly happening because the dotard wants to stay and be a dic[tator].

    #332952
    @timb
    Participant

    We have 3 1/2 years of evidence of the t rump undermining, manipulating, sabotaging, and taking over many of the bedrock institutions of our democracy.  He has drawn more and more power to himself, and has demonstrated that he can break laws and abuse his power and get away with it.  Why would he stop doing that sort of thing now?  He just has to remain in power until he can lie, cheat, steal, or otherwise get passed the election without being confirmed to have lost.

    And he clearly wants, more than anything, to remain in power.  We cannot put anything past him.  He is already doing what he can to cheat his way if necessary (which it will be).  (He can not win in a free and fair election.)

    He will keep trying to cheat and will try worse.  Expect it.

     

     

     

    #332957
    @sree
    Participant

    He will keep trying to cheat and will try worse.  Expect it.

    Since you are expecting the worse, then be prepared for martial law. With all the unrest in the streets of our cities, the lack of municipal leadership in maintaining order across the nation, and the disarray among state governors in re-starting schools and restore normality to daily life for citizens, the President needs to take over control of the USA.

    #332961
    @sree
    Participant

    @mriana

    lol That’s his two cents worth.

    Why do you find Lausten’s reaction to the quote funny? He said the quote was awful. The truth about anything in life is always awful and that is why he hates the quote.

    Our founding fathers knew the truth that if we, the people were all angels, we wouldn’t need a government. This is why they devised a Constitution for wolves and sheep. Apparently, the Founders did not believe in the ideal (of democracy) the way the people do.

    Thomas Jefferson said that democracy is nothing more than mobocracy (mob rule). To us, it is not mob rule but free speech and peaceful protest regardless of the burning and looting.

    John Adams didn’t think that democracy could last long because it would sooner or later murder itself. Our democracy is long dead and what we have is a cadaver, the horror of it we blame on the Russians.

     

    #332963
    @mriana
    Keymaster

    @sree There isn’t always a rhyme or reason as to why one thinks something is funny, but I do think Lausten’s response to you was funny and great. He doesn’t hate it because it’s truth, which it isn’t truth or at least there is no evidence that Ben Franklin actually said it. So basically you’re busted for quoting crap from social media, that is inaccurate as to who said it, if it was ever said at all. Therefore, Lausten’s reaction was great and gave me a good laugh and I suggest you do some research before attributing something to a founding father before you post it. Of course if you feel you need more sources, that’s fine. I can give them or you can look things up yourself. Fact is, it sucks, as Lausten said.

    https://checkyourfact.com/2019/05/29/fact-check-democracy-jefferson-adams-franklin-hamilton/

    #332966
    @mriana
    Keymaster

    @sree

    President needs to take over control of the USA.

    Not by having peaceful protesters gassed. You really do believe the rubbish the dotard says, don’t you? The majority are peaceful protesters and they have the right to protest under the Constitution. Oddly enough the U.S. was built on unrest, yet you and your dotard want to squelsh it in order to put martial law in place. You’d really love that.

    #332970
    @lausten
    Keymaster

    George Orwell would love calling the fake quote “truth”

    #332973

    but Europe is less stable than America

    What a weird thing to say after the past three and a half years.

    When were conservatives not empowered?

    True enough, though when have we ever seen anything like this:

    His smerk says a lot.

     

    Oh and I’m always blown away at how easily people put this out of their minds, as though it’s just a part of some scientists mindscape rather than embedded within the physical fabric of our Earth’s reality and near future.

    https://www.ncdc.noaa.gov/sotc/national/202007

    #332975
    @timb
    Participant

    I fully expect the t rump to impose martial law if he succeeds in stealing this election.

    There will be civil unrest like we have not yet seen.  And he will try to quash it with martial law.

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