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A decent President with foresight and good judgement


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  • #324839
    @timb
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    Wouldn’t that be nice?  Joe Biden in JANUARY, said:

    The possibility of a pandemic is a challenge Donald Trump is unqualified to handle as president. I remember how Trump sought to stoke fear and stigma during the 2014 Ebola epidemic. He called President Barack Obama a “dope” and “incompetent” and railed against the evidence-based response our administration put in place — which quelled the crisis and saved hundreds of thousands of lives — in favor of reactionary travel bans that would only have made things worse. He advocated abandoning exposed and infected American citizens rather than bringing them home for treatment.
    <i>Trump’s demonstrated failures of judgment and his repeated rejection of science make him the worst possible person to lead our country through a global health challeng</i>e.

    THAT was JANUARY.  At that point, only 80 people in the world were known to have died from COVID-19, and that was all in China. If we had had Joe Biden as President, then, (just a mere several weeks ago) we would be living in a different world than the T rump shitshow we have now.

    https://www.usatoday.com/story/opinion/2020/01/27/coronavirus-donald-trump-made-us-less-prepared-joe-biden-column/4581710002/

     

     

     

     

    #324894
    @hugo
    Participant

    Trump is a very serious threat to the people of the USA.

    He simply never takes advice, doesn’t know how to plan, doesn’t know how to lead, doesn’t care who gets impacted by his decisions.

    What kills me is the complete lack of bravery among those close to him, any one of several well placed people could take their turn on the podium at the next press conference and say:

    “Good evening, I want the American public to know that the President has become an immovable obstacle for many of us on this task force, there is little chance of the country handling this crisis in the rational and efficient manner that becomes us as a nation while the President continues to lie to the public and places an obscene emphasis on his reelection campaign. Because of this I am resigning from my position here as I can no longer perform my duties while this President continues to undermine our efforts.”

    If these people really feel that this pandemic is truly serious then that seriousness justifies them taking such a step.

     

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    #324908
    @lausten
    Keymaster

    “Because of this I am resigning from my position here as I can no longer perform my duties while this President continues to undermine our efforts.”

    If White House staff had a union, that might work. But as it is, the work at the discretion of the President. Trump has even figured out how to get around congressional approval. Firing Comey should have brought him down, but congress would have to act, and many of them have only got where they are by kissing up to the power structures. So, either we get people who can figure how to speak to us in code, or we end up with even more incompetent appointees.

    Or in a case like Bolton, wait for the book to come out. So he not only doesn’t do his duty for the American people, but we pay him for it on top of that.

    #324971
    @timb
    Participant

    When I can shake the impending clouds of doom, I find it almost funny to watch Fauci dance around with what he says so as to not offend T rump’s narcistic demands.  Fauci tries to tell the scientific truth, while somehow also not directly opposing any idiotic assertion the DOTUS makes.  He is quite a dancer.

    #325111

    Donald Trump is happier these days since it finally occurred to him (after being told by an aid) that this national crisis could redound to his benefit. He sees giving checks to everyone, rich corporations included as a way of buying votes. If people don’t know by know that he cares only about being praised and admired, they never will. Trump supporters have guzzled down the kool-aid and then took a long soaking bath in it. He cares nothing about the public debt he’ll leave the country when he leaves office and neither do any of his gullible followers. They’ll simply blame it on Hillary. If Donald Trump would order the national guard to close down all voting locations in November his followers would cheer and willingly choose him as dictator for life. These red-blooded, true blue, super patriots represent the worst in our nations body politic and are the same loud complainers who hate immigrants, hate “socialism” hate the thought of women being free to regulate their own bodies, hate the idea of America as one nation among others and most of all bristle at the thought or suggestion they could be wrong about something. Barack Obama was accurate when he described them as retreating to their “guns and bibles”.

    I hope the current impostor is voted out overwhelmingly in November but I’m not as sure as I used to be. If Trump shows up for the debate and he may not, he will by that time have already announced his intention to legalize marijuana and he’ll quickly point out that Joe Biden (gladly, not reluctantly) voted for a crime bill that resulted in tens of thousands of arrests for possessing this harmless substance. Trump will hit Joe Biden point blank during the debate with this charge and Biden will have that “deer in the headlights” look as if completely unaware.  Donald Trump is a disaster for this country but Democrats always seem to be a lame disappointment.

    #325126
    @timb
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    It should be changed to a Schedule II drug. We should move in a direction to make sure it’s not a criminal offense, it’s a civil offense,” he said. “Any conviction at all for marijuana now or in the future or in the past, your record should be wiped clean. It’s not something that is going to send anybody to jail.

                                                                                                                                          Joe Biden on marijuana.

    “…I would decriminalize and I would provide for the ability of the researchers to get in and make sure we got it right this time.”                                                                                                                           Joe Biden.

    The Dems are basically, now, a party of pro-legalization of pot, so do not despair. A long time Senator is always going to have some things in their past that they should have voted differently on were they running for President.  Even the man of eternal impeccable integrity (Bernie) has some gun support bills that he should not have voted for.

    #325210

    Yes Tim what you say is true, politicians who’ve been around for awhile have had to “update” their views on social issues. Barack Obama was opposed to gay marriage when he was first elected but changed his mind when public opinion changed. At one time in this country if a candidate didn’t support the death penalty especially in the South their chance of winning an election was minimal. Democrats are more likely to evolve in their views on social issues whereas Republicans never seem to change their thinking on any issues because their constituencies are backward looking and often feel threatened by any progressive change.

    #325329

    @hugo  He simply never takes advice, doesn’t know how to plan, doesn’t know how to lead, doesn’t care who gets impacted by his decisions.

    You forgot to mention his pettiness and his need to GET EVEN and that his basic impulse has always been tossing PR bombs and institutional vandalism.  But, that’s what Americans wanted a brainless angry talker and what Democrats were too smug to confront and expose.

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