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Are nouns illusory?


Forums Forums General Discussion Are nouns illusory?

This topic contains 18 replies, has 8 voices, and was last updated by  TimB 2 weeks, 4 days ago.

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  • #302927

    Xain
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    It came up in a discussion. The point being made is that since things are changing all the time that it’s not right to use nouns to refer to then as some kind of fixed and permanent things but to use action verbs to do so. Like thinking, working, etc.

    Doesn’t make sense to me since those are actions. A noun doesn’t imply the object is permanent or doesn’t change.

    #302928

    Lausten
    Participant

    Well, you used “point being” correctly in that sentence. Better than I can say for some people.

    #302929

    Xain
    Participant

    It’s just that when I heard it I got into a tailspin of definitions. But I just had this notion that actions (verbs) don’t fit as “objects” (according to his version). Things change but that doesn’t make them verbs, but I don’t know the philosophical words to argue that.

    #302935

    Player
    Participant

    XAIN – Rome is burning around and this what occupies your mind?

    #302936

    Xain
    Participant

    I don’t live in Rome so I don’t care. I care about this thing that could potentially upend how I live life or experience it. Potentially that is.

    #302939

    Player
    Participant

    You dont live on mother earth? Are you a moron??

    #302940

    Lausten
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    Good demonstration of why we have global warming. There was a moment there I thought humanity might make it. I’m back to doubting again.

    #302943

    Xain
    Participant

    I live on Earth yes, but not Rome. Ergo what happens there doesn’t concern me, and to be frank what happens to the planet doesn’t concern me either. I’m more concerned about this and the potentially mind bending implications for me (just me though, I don’t think other people would be influenced by it). I think I got it from actualized.org.

    #302946

    Player
    Participant

    Cretin comes to mind

    #302976

    Xain
    Participant

    Huh?

    #303035

    Advocatus
    Participant

    Don’t let Player bother you, Xain.  Most of us have learned by now to ignore 80% of what he says, and take the rest with a grain of salt.

    This idea reminds me of a beautiful story by Borges, “Tlon Uqbar Orbis Tertius”.  It’s about a totally fictional planet that was invented by a group of scholars.  The language of Tlon was said to have no nouns either.  They supposedly spoke in verbs and adjectives.  I suppose that a whole nation of poets could bring that off, but for most of us language is just a rough approximation of thought anyway.  Nouns are essential to make ourselves understood.

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    #303118

    Xain
    Participant

    I’m kind of stuck on this one since aren’t “noun”s just the process of molecules holding together in a certain way?

    #303119

    Xain
    Participant

    I mean how can nouns be nouns when things are never permanent or unchanging?

    #303121

    LoisL
    Participant

    Xian, you’re mixing up grammar and physics. You might hurt yourself.

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