June 3, 2019 at 6:44 pm #301687
June 6, 2019 at 12:28 am #301887
- I asked if possible.
The question is, “What do you mean by “real”.June 6, 2019 at 1:58 am #301894
Of the natural world.June 6, 2019 at 2:14 am #301898
Then Spiderman cannot be real. And Jesus as god or anything supernatural cannot be real. Jesus could have been real as a man, but only as a man. We don’t have much evidence that the Jesus of the bible never existed, even as a man. His persona could have been made up out of whole cloth or it could have been based on an actual person or several persons. But as soon as you get into the supernatural realm, he ceases to be of the natural world.June 6, 2019 at 5:24 am #301900
“We don’t have much evidence that the Jesus of the bible never existed, ”
Sorry to be a noodge. I think you may be conflating ‘evidence’ and ‘proof’. They are not the same thing; Evidence is anything used in support of an argument. There is a vast amount of evidence for the existence of Jesus. What all this evidence does not provide is proof.
I blame Carl Sagan, who said “absence of evidence is not evidence of absence.” This statement is incorrect. Absence of evidence is in fact evidence of absence, but it is not proof..
The difference is subtle but definite.June 6, 2019 at 7:49 am #301904
Evidence is the bible says so. How do you know the bible is true? Because the bible says its true.
Thats what you call evidence??June 6, 2019 at 7:55 am #301905
“Then Spiderman cannot be real. And Jesus as god or anything supernatural cannot be real.”
So spiderman cannot possibly be real but Thor can be?
Thanks for the logic 101 lesson LoisLJune 6, 2019 at 7:49 pm #301963
“Evidence is the bible says so. How do you know the bible is true? Because the bible says its true.”
Just so. Non believers reject all sacred texts as a source of truth.. Believers accept on faith; ‘a belief in things unseen”. There is no proof for any religious belief of which I’m aware.
“Evidence” is ANYTHING provided in support of a claim. It is NOT a synonym for ‘proof’
Hence, the Torah, New Testament, The Q’uran, Hadith, stacks of historical accounts (after the fact) and personal anecdotes are ALL ‘evidence’. For say the existence of God, the ,the life and teachings of Jesus, or Muhammed. What they are not, is proof.
Perhaps look at how evidence works in law; much of the evidence provided, is inadmissible. Eyewitness accounts are generally seen as unreliable; evidence, but not proof. Can yo see the difference? Or have I been unclear?June 6, 2019 at 8:06 pm #301966
Is the bible evidence?June 6, 2019 at 8:22 pm #301969
Player, if you could read AND comprehend what you read, you would know his answer to that. Just read his last post over and over and over, until maybe it will click for you.June 6, 2019 at 8:30 pm #301971
“Player, if you could read AND comprehend what you read, you would know his answer to that. Just read his last post over and over and over, until maybe it will click for you.”
Thanks Tim; do you think it’s just that he doesn’t read posts, or do you think he might be a bit dim? I’m beginning to think that although perfectly capable of comprehension and rational responses, he gets a kick out of trolling .It’s very tedious.June 6, 2019 at 9:36 pm #301976
Idk. Every once in a while he makes a modicum of sense. It is tedious.June 6, 2019 at 11:46 pm #301998
I cant believe how dumb you both are. If i write a book and it says i am god and can perform miracles you say thats evidence.
Wow!June 6, 2019 at 11:51 pm #301999
“I cant believe how dumb you both are. If i write a book and it says i am god and can perform miracles you say thats evidence.”
I’ve explained, twice about the difference between ‘evidence’ and ‘proof”.
Because of your ability to make sense when you want to, I’m simply unable to believe you are really as stupid and bloody minded as your last two posts show.
I can only conclude that you really are an obnoxious little troll. I’m done with you.June 7, 2019 at 12:07 am #302001
How can the source making the claim be used as evidence for that claim? You didnt explain. What is written in the bible are truth claims, evidence of which should be supported by contemperaneous sources. There are none.
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