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  • #329184
    @lausten
    Keymaster

    Your data does not support your argument oneguy.

    And cut the racism already.

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    #329185
    @mriana
    Keymaster

    @sree

    You are saying it, not me.

    No sree, you called cops cats and black people rats in said post.

    Do you think all these liberal white self-flagellation and black rioting will go away if authority here in the USA is black?

    Why not a world in which all people are seen as human, not as white or black. For example, while some people may see my sons as black, even though they are really half black, I see my sons, not skin colour. When I see they father, my ex-husband, that’s the first two things that come to mind and his skin colour is the last thing. I can be with black people, but that’s not what I think about. I think about the music, the conversation, or whatever the activity is. I go to Martin Luther King Jr events and skin colour isn’t what I think about at the events for that day with other human beings. And btw, not everyone who is protesting is black. There are some white people there and at the protests tomorrow there will be white people there. KC MO, Springfield MO, and St. Louis MO not everyone is black at any of these protest and probably not anywhere else there are protests in the U.S. tonight and tomorrow, as noted in the article below:

    https://www.ky3.com/content/news/Protest-of-death-of-George-Floyd-planned-for-Saturday-in-Springfield-570882141.html

    So please, get off this black and white crap because what happened is a HUMAN rights issue.


    @timb
    that’s so disgusting it’s funny.

    #329190
    @timb
    Participant

    Brazil is a cesspool of corruption and now of nationalistic rightwing idiot conservatives like their current leader Bolsanaro, the T rump of South America, who is now screwing Brazil like T rump is screwing us with the handling of C-19.

    Northern Europe has socialist leaning governments. Lower institutionalized police brutality, I bet, is less a factor of racial homogeneity and more a factor of populations of people who tend to be humanistic, rather than tribal, and socialistic leaning, rather than nationalistic.

    But I know, Oneguy, that you are all about your idea in which you seem to think that it is a law of nature that homogeneous populations are superior to multicultural populations.  You should write a book on it.  RepugLIARS would love it.

    #329203
    @lausten
    Keymaster

    I think maybe there should be some required reading before you can be allowed to post about race on this forum. Maybe a quiz. Here’s a start:

    S2 E2: How Race Was Made

    1. When was the first time Africans were sold to Europeans, with it justified by their inferiority?

    2. When was the last time American school children were taught about “the three races of man”?

    3. Describe the difference between a biological definition of race and a social construct of race.

     

    #329204
    @mriana
    Keymaster

    @lausten I took African American courses with African American professors, as well as majored in psychology, with sociology courses in college, as well as raised a 1/2 black family, and I can’t answer those questions. I don’t think those three questions are the ultimate knowledge concerning race.

    BTW, one of my sociology professors drilled into us that there is only one race- the human race and everything else about race is a human construct.

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    #329206
    @sree
    Participant

    Northern Europe has the lowest amount of police brutality and the highest trust in police, which are obviously related.

    Don’t leave out East Asia. From my experience, Tokyo, Singapore and Hong Kong (before our liberal politicians and media incited civil disobedience there) are – by far – better than Northern Europe. Police are never seen in public places which are safe day or night.

    In all my life growing up and living in the US, I always viewed cops as a source of security. They are the good guys who show up to deal with the bad guys when we call 911. The presence of a cop car still reassures, even though I had been pulled over more than a couple of times. Who would shoot the sheriff? No one – except in godless America.

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    #329208
    @mriana
    Keymaster

    Personally, I have mixed emotions about the police in the U.S. They can be the bad guys or the good guys or they can be downright lazy, needing to park themselves at the Krispy Kreme. Even as a child, the sheriff himself didn’t do a damn thing. All that in a Xian county. Xians just turn the other way or say it’s all in God’s plan, even child abuse.

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    #329211
    @lausten
    Keymaster

    Good points Mriana. A couple of those things were new to me too.

    #329214
    @timb
    Participant

    It seems to me that cops are mostly good people.  Some, however are like this guy:

    And the system protects the cops who are REALLY BAD as well as it protects the “good” cops. Often times, it seems that the “good” cops ALSO protect the BAD ones.  Or at least, look the other way.


    @Lausten
    , are you going to give the answers to those 3 questions, or do we have to look them up? : )

    #329219
    @lausten
    Keymaster

    I would like Sree and oneguy to spend less than a half hour listening, or even 5 minutes skimming the transcript.

    #329304
    @thatoneguy
    Participant

    Don’t leave out East Asia. From my experience, Tokyo, Singapore and Hong Kong (before our liberal politicians and media incited civil disobedience there) are – by far – better than Northern Europe. Police are never seen in public places which are safe day or night.

    Singapore is a police state, more or less.  Their police are professional but they’re allowed to be pretty damn harsh.  Singapore has some crazy laws, as well.

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    #329308
    @thatoneguy
    Participant

    Your data does not support your argument oneguy.

    What are your main disagreements?

    #329309

    Don’t suppose increasing population densities along with dwindling opportunities, hopeless, and helplessness have much to do with the all around tension.

    Does a hate mongering president have anything to do with it?

    #329313
    @thatoneguy
    Participant

    Brazil is a cesspool of corruption and now of nationalistic rightwing idiot conservatives like their current leader Bolsanaro, the T rump of South America, who is now screwing Brazil like T rump is screwing us with the handling of C-19.

    You forgot to mention that is one of the most diverse countries on earth. Maybe it wouldn’t be a cesspool if it wasn’t.

    Northern Europe has socialist leaning governments. Lower institutionalized police brutality, I bet, is less a factor of racial homogeneity and more a factor of populations of people who tend to be humanistic, rather than tribal, and socialistic leaning, rather than nationalistic.

    Well, socialism and nationalism can go together quite well.  Otto Von Bismarck might have pioneered Northern European socialism.

    And socialist government itself is not really a good predictor of less police brutality. After all,  look at Latin America’s experiments with socialism. It’s more about the people who comprise the society.

    But I know, Oneguy, that you are all about your idea in which you seem to think that it is a law of nature that homogeneous populations are superior to multicultural populations. You should write a book on it. RepugLIARS would love it.

    Haha there are already books about it written by experts. That how I found out about all this.

    #329325
    @timb
    Participant

    You forgot to mention that (Brazil) is one of the most diverse countries on earth.

    “Diversity”, of course.  You seem to believe it is the root of all evils in societies.

    Otto Von Bismarck might have pioneered Northern European socialism.

    A born noble from the 17th century who believed in the divine right of monarchs?  A strange choice of hero, I think.

    And socialist government itself is not really a good predictor of less police brutality. After all, look at Latin America’s experiments with socialism.

    A better predictor of police brutality is probably corruption. Latin American countries seem to be champions of corruption, but our T rump seems to be giving them a run for their money.

    Haha there are already books about it written by experts.

    What is your favorite book about the social evils of Diversity written by an expert?

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