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The Cosmic Joke


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  • #306764

    3point14rat
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    Sherlock Holmes said:

    For since the creation of the world God’s invisible qualities–his eternal power and divine nature–have been clearly seen, being understood from what has been made, so that men are without excuse.

    For although they knew God, they neither glorified him as God nor gave thanks to him, but their thinking became futile and their foolish hearts were darkened.

    Romans 1.

    Then, when questions were asked based on that post, he posted:

    I merely quote a well known piece of scripture and you begin to froth at the mouth and become highly emotional, please calm down.

    and,

    I just quoted it, nothing more. I am not dodging anything, you did ask a stream questions each of which could be a forum topic in their own right but you didn’t ask those questions because you wanted an answer.

    They were I think rhetorical, intended to discredit me (“where’s your sense of humility”, “The conceit is amazing”) by conveying an impression about me purely based on the fact that I quoted a scripture. I thought the scripture poignant given the topic and some of the preceding posts, it was posted in a light hearted but thought provoking sense.

    Once again, get over yourself.

    Posting random Bible quotes is an odd way to participate in a forum.

    On a completely unrelated note, is it possible for anyone so dense that they don’t know how constant feigned erudition and willful ignorance can drive even the most gentle and patient people to react angrily?

    Personally, I find it impossible to believe, and feel people like that are working hard a martyring themselves by intentionally creating an environment where they are rejected purely due to their nastiness, but that they will twist to their purpose by crying they were unjustly censored or picked-on.

    To reiterate, this is merely a random question and should in no way be interpreted as a commentary on anyone on these forums, especially this thread.

    #306824

    Sherlock Holmes
    Participant

    @3point14rat

    Posting random Bible quotes is an odd way to participate in a forum.

    How silly, first it was not randomly selected and second quoting historic documents is a very common thing when discussing any subject.

    On a completely unrelated note, is it possible for anyone so dense that they don’t know how constant feigned erudition and willful ignorance can drive even the most gentle and patient people to react angrily?

    But I did not get angry with him.

    Personally, I find it impossible to believe, and feel people like that are working hard a martyring themselves by intentionally creating an environment where they are rejected purely due to their nastiness, but that they will twist to their purpose by crying they were unjustly censored or picked-on.

    I don’t see him that way, but that’s just me.

     

    #306838

    3point14rat
    Participant

    “But I did not get angry with him.”

    Ha! You do have a sense of humour!

    I wish we could have an actual conversation with you. Unfortunately that horse got out of the barn (and then the barn torched and the horse killed) ages ago, but it is still an interesting idea to think about (kinda like me wishing I could win the lottery but never buying tickets).

    “I don’t see him that way, but that’s just me.”

    Ya right. I’m sure you’re just an innocent seeker of knowledge who everyone misunderstands. You know that’s not true, and you know we know that’s not true.

    #306935

    Sherlock Holmes
    Participant

    @3point14rat

    I’m pleased at least that you noticed the humor!

    Some of you like to use the term “we” like here “you know we know that’s not true” – this is actually speaking on behalf of others, I have no idea what you know or think you know or what “you all” think or know.

    Personally I see a set of individuals, I am not debating a group, you may feel some camaraderie with this or that person on certain issues but that’s a subjective thing, there is no “us” and “them” here.

    Your use of the term “we” seems to be suggesting that there is inherent legitimacy in a group as opposed to a lone voice, that a lone dissenter who is at odds with a group is by definition wrong, the facts, the science, the logic doesn’t really matter if the majority of “us” disagree with “him” then that itself constitutes evidence of “him” being wrong.

    #306949

    (kinda like me wishing I could win the lottery but never buying tickets).

    Oh yeah – but think of how much money you’ve saved by not buying losing lottery tickets.  At least that’s what I tell myself 🙂

    #306952

    “we” perhaps it comes back to that scientific consensus thing.  Discussing evolution, I often us “we know” because the facts are pretty well understood by those who care to learn about it.  I have been convince by those facts, so it would seem silly for me to use the “I know” when it’s the lessons of others that have taught me what I know.

     

    Sort like a salesperson constantly talking about “my” stock – when he’s just a dang employee and has had nothing to do with the merchandise purchasing or ownership.

    Here’s some great merchandise I just got in.  BS.

    Here’s some great merchandise we just got in.  Sounds way more proper to me.

    #306953

    Back to scripture

    Lets not forget it was a silly quote – Holmes thinks it profound but can’t explain why,

    so off into Distraction Land we hop yet again.

    #307130

    3point14rat
    Participant

    “Personally I see a set of individuals, I am not debating a group, you may feel some camaraderie with this or that person on certain issues but that’s a subjective thing, there is no “us” and “them” here.”

    I am sorry if anyone here is upset that I used “we” when mentioning how some people seem to have a similar problem communicating with one other person on here. My assumption when seeing a number of people say the same thing to the same person and get the same response, was that we were having the same experience. My bad if you were all actually satisfied with your experience in spite of everything you posted.

    “Oh yeah – but think of how much money you’ve saved by not buying losing lottery tickets.  At least that’s what I tell myself .”

    That’s what I tell myself too. “Vegas was built by losers”, is not an exaggeration. Same goes for the winner of a lottery.

    If playing the lottery was fun I might buy a ticket, but I get no satisfaction in donating money to someone I don’t know because they also bought a ticket.

    My grandpa bought $20 worth of tickets every week from the early-80’s until he passed away in 2011. He never won more than $300 and I have no idea his total winnings, but there’s no way he won more than a total of more than $2000. He spend around $30,000. There are guys I’ve worked with who spent far more than my grandpa every week and never won either.

    I know of no winners and know no one who knows someone who’s won. Do any of you know a big winner?

     

     

    #307213

    LoisL
    Participant

    I know a lot of people who claim to have won big , but little evidence. Others claim to break even, but casino odds will tell you that you can’t break even for long. The odds are always in favor of the house, no matter how many people tell you they have a “system”. The real odds are that gamblers lie.

    http://www.casino.org/what-are-the-odds/

    entertainment.howstuffworks.com/slot-machine4.htm

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