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Travellers


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  • #299024

    Lausten
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    If you need another TV series to binge, try Travellers on Netflix. They send the consciousness of people from the future into the bodies of people in the present just before they would have died. The future is messed up, but they have a super computer that contains a ton of digital data from the present. Watching Season 3 Episode 10, I realized this all sets up a conversation similar to something else I posted around here somewhere.

    That is, we have evolved as a cooperative creature, but we kept that to a few hundred people for most of our evolution, then we expanded to nations and even nations helping other nations, but the idea of caring about people who aren’t born yet still hasn’t quite caught on. People love their grandchildren, but they also release themselves from the responsibility of their upbringing, with some exceptions. At some point, we feel it’s no longer our problem, they’ll have to figure it out just like we did. Evolutionarily, that worked, until we got to the point where our lifestyles were destroying the planet.

    #299038

    TimB
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    I don’t have Netflix, but I tend to like any fiction having to do with time travel.

    #299344

    3point14rat
    Participant

    How far in the future do the dying people live? And is their death related to what’s happening now (is it a social commentary on our society)?

    Sounds interesting. Unlike TimB, I tend to not like time travel- there are always way too many inconsistencies and impossible situations. I have yet to see one that I can enjoy without being distracted by the lack of rigor that goes into the storyline. This might be the one!

    #299355

    Lausten
    Participant

    They did one majorly annoying inconsistency fix but for the most part, the time travel doesn’t get in the way of the story. I also don’t like it when a show starts talking about alternate timelines and has competing travellers constantly overwriting each other, but they don’t do that. The show progresses more logically because the rule is, each new traveller can only appear after the last one. This becomes an important plot line when you find out about the first person who showed up.

    Also, they don’t travel back in time with their own bodies, it’s their minds that are sent back and they take over the mind of someone about to die. So all the problems of what that person would have done anyway aren’t a problem. Instead, you get interesting stories of how they maintain their cover, trying to act like people in this time, sometimes not knowing simple things, like when to buy flowers for your wife.

    #299356

    3point14rat
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    “…sometimes not knowing simple things, like when to buy flowers for your wife.”

    Hmmm… maybe I’m a time traveler and don’t know it. I’ll see if that excuse will work at my house.

     

    #299444

    TimB
    Participant

    I don’t see how taking over the mind of someone who was about to die, doesn’t still corrupt the timeline.  Sure nothing different was done by the person who was going to die anyway, except he/she DIDN’T DIE (from the perspective of the rest of the world) AND he/she IS DOING THINGS THAT WOULD NOT HAVE BEEN DONE.

    #299470

    Patrick D
    Participant

    Yeah I’ve been watching it for a while. It’s Ok.

    My favourite time travel flick is “12 Monkeys”

     

    Below a clip of my favourite public intellectual, Prof Brian Cox, explaining why time travels in one direction.

     

     

    #299479

    TimB
    Participant

    Hmm.  So a trick to defeating (delaying) entropy could be to vastly increase the probability that elemental deterioration will be replaced elementally.

    But re: time travel, it definitely is hard to see travelling into the past, since it would involve, not delaying entropy, but actually reversing it.

    #299539

    Patrick D
    Participant

    @timb

    Yair.

    There are alway problems with time travel movies, beginning with the grand father paradox. Eg the film ‘Looper’

    I remember watching the first version of H G Wells’ “The Time Machine.” In the film it is assumed that he travels through time AND space. Not sure that  assumption maybe reasonably made.

    Trying to think of another sci fi series where a woman/police/security travels to the past. She interacts with the guy who invented the time travel technology, as a teen.

    Also trying to think of a mind bending  time travel film in which there are 3 people in a bar . BUT, they are the same person at different ages.

    I’l let you know if I remember or track them down in my video library.

    #299558

    Patrick D
    Participant

    Addendum:

    I found the movie; “Predestination”. Haven’t been able to find the TV series I wanted.  Pretty good movie, imo.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Predestination_(film)

     

    Found the TV series;  “Continuum”

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Continuum_%28TV_series%29

     

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    #299596

    TimB
    Participant

    Wow, that Aussie “Predestination” film sounds like a brain bender.  I’m surprised I never heard of it, or of that Canadian TV sci fi series, “Continuum” either.

     

    #302017

    Kevin
    Participant

    Thanks for the recommendation. Will definitely check “Traveller” out. I personally love watching travel channels about places I want to visit. Travelling is fun, travelling is self-educating and travelling is glorious. Each day new travel enthusiasts upload their personal travel tales on Youtube.

    #302022

    TimB
    Participant

    Well that is a sneaky spam.

    #302049

    Patrick D
    Participant

    Yes, I think so too.

    I NEVER watch travel shows. I have done, but found they are usually full of it by seeing what they have to say about places I’ve actually visited. I DO watch Youtube clips occasionally, usually  made by  one of several young American couple or perhaps a student..  They are often unintentionally hilarious. The kids have no idea..

    I avoid travel sites. I choose where I want go to based on a combination of ” I’ve always wanted to go there” together with word of mouth from people I trust. Travel channels are just more elaborate versions of travel brochures, and just as dishonest, in the moral sense. .I expect they’re covered legally.

    One large  apparent con is those hotel finding sites. From what I understand there is now only ONE company which owns all those sites. Might be two companies; the choices offered are an illusion.

    I found I got the best deals  by going directly to the airline or dealing directly with the hotel. I have had some pretty good deals booking hotels through a county’s flag ship airline.

    #307247

    Kevin
    Participant

    nice

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