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  • #305893
    Player
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    Citizen you can’t make heads or tails out of the fact that Russia is lead by a right wing government and me wanting to abolish capitalism.

    Are you a player – Citizen?

    #305901
    TimB
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    So that is your agenda — wanting to abolish capitalism?  I see why you want to keep that as a hidden agenda.  It’s absolute nuts.  And your avid support of Bernie must be that you think he would be an ally in destroying capitalism?  Again, nuts.

    Player, you’re playin’ in your mind in some kind of LaLaLand, and you’re spilling over into the real world.  No wonder you cause so much friction. Our challenge in the real world is to regulate capitalism sufficiently.  Would you abolish mankind’s use of fire?  No.  You would insure that it is only used safely.

     

    #305905
    Player
    Blocked

    Timb thinks that capitalism is a law of nature

    #305907
    TimB
    Participant

    TimB recognizes the reality of what capitalism produces. (both good and bad) Player apparently has a vendetta against it and wants its destruction. Alrighty then.

    #305908
    Player
    Blocked

    Yes the reality. Look outside at the conditions the masses are asked to accept by the ruling class

    #305909
    TimB
    Participant

    The masses have access to much of what capitalism provides, just not their fair share.  You want to shut down the engine of production of capitalism.  That might result in a technically more fair share for all, in that all would be equally screwed.  You have a philosophy that is currently insane.

    #305910

    Yes the reality. Look outside at the conditions the masses are asked to accept by the ruling class

    Perhaps those conditions have more to do with human greed and gluttony, than capitalism itself.

    Besides you silly, we have no real capitalism anymore anyways!

    When corporations are allowed to get bigger and more powerful than civil governments you’ve got a monster, not capitalism.

    #305912
    Player
    Blocked

    Citizen I would love to hear what your definition of capitalism is.

    #305913
    Player
    Blocked

    There is no fair share on capitalism. That’s why call it a profit based system

    #305914
    Write4U
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    CC-v.3 said,

    When corporations are allowed to get bigger and more powerful than civil governments you’ve got a monster, not capitalism.

    IMO,  Capitalism is a man made monster, that enables humans to take more than they are allowed by the laws of Nature.

    Capitalism is responsible for the current man made, greed driven, Holocene Extinction Event.

    The monster of greed turning around and devouring its own tail.

    The official symbol is    https://s.yimg.com/fz/api/res/1.2/_AaIShxeN0jTVQgDPyIOJg–~C/YXBwaWQ9c3JjaGRkO2ZpPWZpdDtoPTE4MDtxPTgwO3c9MTgw/https://s.yimg.com/zb/imgv1/148beb72-a00c-3fd1-8a43-b59d312884bb/t_500x300

    Holocene extinction

    Extinction event during the current Holocene geological epoch
    The Holocene extinction, otherwise referred to as the sixth mass extinction or Anthropocene extinction, is an ongoing extinction event of species during the present Holocene epoch as a result of human activity. en.wikipedia.org

     

     

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    #305915
    TimB
    Participant

    It is so simple.  (not easy but the idea is simple) prevent exploitation in capitalism.  The outcome doesn’t need to be, nor should it be, that everyone comes out absolutely equitably.  But the outcome should be that if some gain a lot, then the whole should gain , too, such that the wealth disparity does not rise unchecked.

    Simple idea, but apparently too much for you to comprehend.

    #305918
    Write4U
    Participant

    TimB said,

    It is so simple.  (not easy but the idea is simple) prevent exploitation in capitalism.  The outcome doesn’t need to be, nor should it be, that everyone comes out absolutely equitably.  But the outcome should be that if some gain a lot, then the whole should gain , too, such that the wealth disparity does not rise unchecked.

    No, the outcome should be that when you gain a lot, you MUST return alot. Else the natural relationship is parasitic,where the parasite literally kills its host instead of practicing symbiosis.

    Capitalism is man-made economic principle which is in direct conflict with Natural law.

    The Exponential Function is the mathematical certainty that when you have a limited resource there can only be limited growth, which is not compatible with the principles of Capitalism.

     

     

    A Black Hole is an example of a Natural Capitalistic Object. It eats everything until its all gone.

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    #305920
    Player
    Blocked

    Tim b remove exploitation and we don’t have capitalism. We have something else.

    #305925
    TimB
    Participant

    Prevent the exploitation and we have properly regulated capitalism.

    We are on the same page, tho you don’t seem to realize it, that the more the successful capitalist acquires, the better it should be for all. IOW, the growth in wealth should be shared such that all experience it to some degree, rather than only a few getting wealthier and wealthier while the rest stagnate.

    As far as growth being limited due to resources being limited, I think that it is primarily your imagination that is limited.

    #305926
    Write4U
    Participant

    Player said,

    Tim b remove exploitation and we don’t have capitalism. We have something else.

    Yep, remove exploitation (predation) and you get symbiosis. All organisms use natural resources, but in return also contribute to natural resources.

    A tree eats CO2 and contributes Oxygen to the environment as well as functioning as a CO2 scrubber wchich sequesters excess CO2 from the atmosphere.  Pretty neat service a tree provides to living organisms, no?

    The little honeybee and their relationship to flowering plants provides food for about 70 % of all herbivores. Both pollinating insects and flowering plants feed half the world’s living things, while creating the most beautiful natural art one can imagine.

    This example of the results of a reciprocating system by Natural selection cannot be ignored.  Natura Artis Magistra!

     

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