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  • #303412

    Thank you Player, that dose of reality is a good counterpoint to Mike’s belly-button rambling.

     

    Mike, I’m always impressed for how confidently you can speak what’s on my mind and in my heart – though it has nothing to do with any facts, or the actual reality – but that don’t mean fuk to the rightwing political types, controlling the narrative is all that matters – truth and honesty are dispensable.

    #303414

    3point14rat
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    Player: “The past half century of American capitalism has been a period of decay, presided over by a criminal oligarchy of corporate billionaires and financial speculators. The United States has the highest social inequality of any major industrialized country; its social infrastructure is in a state of collapse; and its healthcare and public education systems are abysmal. The most basic index of social well-being, life expectancy, is declining, propelled by the sharp rise in drug overdoses and suicides.”

    Yes. Well put.

    It always amazes me how people can see the destruction of civilized society by rampant capitalism, yet they are so brainwashed into thinking capitalism is “good” and socialism is “bad”, that they ignore reality, including their own suffering and that of their friends and family.

    Hopefully the pendulum doesn’t swing too far right before people finally wake up. But with so many people so ignorant, and with all the money and influence held by those who benefit from the way it is, I honestly think that things are going to get a lot worse before they get better.

    #303415

    MikeYohe
    Participant

    Player,

    The past half century of American capitalism has been a period of decay, presided over by a criminal oligarchy of corporate billionaires and financial speculators. The United States has the highest social inequality of any major industrialized country; its social infrastructure is in a state of collapse; and its healthcare and public education systems are abysmal.

    On the political viewpoint. Democrats are now the party of the rich.

    Who to blame? The swamp.

    #303416

    MikeYohe
    Participant

    Player,

    “The past half century of American capitalism has been a period of decay”

    American capitalism system is the backbone system used by 183 nations in the world today. And it was not done with ambassadors, it was done through working with our nation’s large corporations. It has changed the world and the lives of the people of the world to living a better life.

    You are correct. And this decay you are seeing is very understandable and is expected.

    The Greeks and the Romans wanted very much to have a civilization as strong as the Egyptians. The Egyptian civilization lasted the longest and worked very well and was the envy of all nations. To have a nation where the people did not have to work hard, enjoyed food and drink, had good laws, good health and was able to spend time with song and music. Mainly because of the capitalist system.

    The capitalist system gets out of balance and must be readjusted. It was the pharaohs job to keep the world in balance. It was the job of the temples to keep the people fat, happy, educated and healthy. Basically, the government. But when the government got greedy, the people got unhappy. When the pharaoh saw the people were unhappy. He would readjust the wealth and make the people happy again. This readjustment or recycling of the capitalist system of a temple had to take place about once every twenty years or once a generation.

    The goal of the Greeks and Romans was to build an Egyptian type of system without the Pharaoh. The temples were the government and the Pharaoh was the spirit or the moral standards of the people. The Greeks setup a system and the Romans improved upon it. Jesus was part of the Greek/Roman system and was setting Israel up to be governed by an improved version of the system. Basically, a checks and balance system which was meant to keep the rules of law applied over everyone.

    This is going to be hard to get my point of view across due to the lack of understanding, so try to stay with me. On my post above, number six was “Control of greed”. That is having a good checks and balance system. You know it as the Supreme Court. Number seven is “Minimal caste”. Socialism and communist system are meant to remove caste but have proven to be nothing more than a system of caste.

    Caste, all Americans are view by most of the world as upper caste. The problems you are seeing with the American capitalism system is caste problems. Capitalism does not have to be controlled by the upper caste. There does not even have to be caste in our system of capitalism. Caste does work well in the medical, educational and religious fields. Hillary lost the election because of a Caste revolt. Yet, ask ten people to explain what caste is and you most likely will get nine wrong answers.

    So, why is America having trouble with caste? Simple, our system was never finished or completed. Jefferson picked up Jesus’s new ideas of checks and balance system for the Greek/Roman rule. The weak point of the system was caste. Caste can be controlled by good morals. You can even have good caste if you have good morals. Mankind has not been able to get rid of caste, systems used caste going back into pre-history. So, the idea was to build the system that promoted good caste. Jefferson did not want to use religion in our new system. But Jefferson wanted a system that would have good morals. He reviewed the works of the Greek and Roman philosophers of morals. Jefferson understood that good morals meant a good capitalism balance and a civilization with happy and healthy people. Jefferson conclusion was that the teachings of Jesus was the best system to teach morals. Jefferson created two different bibles of the works of Jesus by removing the deity out of bible.

    Our system is the work of thousands of years of striving for the best system. We know what the problems are, and we know what needs to be done. Our President is trying to remove the caste in DC and open the door for us to work on finishing a system our forefathers have passed down to us.

    Need to cut off here Player.

     

    #303417

    3point14rat
    Participant

    “When the pharaoh saw the people were unhappy. He would readjust the wealth and make the people happy again. This readjustment or recycling of the capitalist system of a temple had to take place about once every twenty years or once a generation.”

    Your imaginary capitalism success story has a pharaoh who redistributes wealth?

    Do you know the meaning of any of the words you use?

    #303418

    Lausten
    Participant

    Our President is trying to remove the caste in DC and open the door for us to work on finishing a system our forefathers have passed down to us. — Mike

    There is so much wrong with your post. This though, how can you possibly…..?

    #303420

    MikeYohe
    Participant

    That’s a big step. You managed to use the word “caste”. Did it hurt a little bit? Your number one subject is religion. And the first religions were built on caste. Let’s take this a step at a time. There’s to much TDS around here to get any understanding out of talking about our President. Who knows, someday you may even be able to say the name of Jesus’s religion. Of course, I am talking about the real Jesus, not Paul’s Jesus. And Jefferson was using the works of the real Jesus on civilization. He was using Paul’s Jesus on moral teachings. Didymos Judas Thomas works were not available to Jefferson. And we don’t even know if Paul’s quotes of Jesus were from Jesus himself or made up from the Eastern Texts that were around at the time. We know that most of Jesus’s teachings were teaching from the Eastern Areas. Jesus was not really original in his teachings.

    What does amaze me is how Jesus was hated by certain castes of people at the time that included higher-ups in both political parties.  But loved by the lower caste. President Trump has had to deal with the exact same situational irony.

    We can probably figure out what caste level people place themselves in or that they wished they were in by their views of President Trump.

    To answer your question. Jefferson said we will know that it is possible when deities are look at as Minerva of the Brain of Jupiter.

    #303421

    There you go again – fabricating what others are thinking.   Denial of reality . . .   in the service of propping up your fantasy mike.

     

    #303422

    thatoneguy
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    This thread has derailed nicely.

     

    #303423

    3point14rat
    Participant

    “Caste can be controlled by good morals. You can even have good caste if you have good morals.”

    Since ‘caste’ is basing the hierarchy of a society on heredity, it is by definition immoral. Claiming it is moral or can be morally good is to not understand anything about morals and/or what ‘caste’ means.

    Until you learn what the words you use mean, you will continue to be wrong (or else correct by accident, which doesn’t count).

     

    #303424

    thatoneguy
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    You see what you think you see. Most military spending is not for the purpose of military equipment (tanks). It is for the purpose of keeping our nation out of a depression. In a depression, the farms and houses are taken over by the banks that have not closed. The soup lines are long and there are no jobs.

    To stop the depressions, the nation was divided into seven economic zones. When one of these zones is in a recession for a given period of time and no public programs are available to be funded quickly then military contracts are given out to military contractors in the zone. This keeps our military organized and if they get a plane or a tank out of the economic stimulus program then it is better than just dumping money in the zone or increasing the welfare programs.

    That’s besides the point of this thread and false in any case. Military spending is primarily a necessity of US geopolitical reality (“we are the worlds policeman”). Further down the list is filling the bank accounts of the defense industry and then maybe job creation. If it prevents depressions as you say, that’s just an after effect.

    #303425

    MikeYohe
    Participant

    3point,

    Did the Pharaoh not sail up and down the Nile from temple to temple to check on the people? And when the temple was not doing what it was supposed to. The Pharaoh gave a lot of the temple’s land back to the people. Sort of like the stimulus we use today. Instead of land we give money. And the reason is for the economy. Because the government knows the people are unhappy when there is no money and the capitalist system keeps the money moving. Is this not what history said happened? When the Pharaoh gave your land away you were on notice to stop the greed. Greed was well understood by the Egyptians. As an Egyptian you would save your money and buy a farm. Then when the Pharaoh came to the temple you wanted to be able to buy your first-born male back from the Pharaoh. As all first-born males of all animals and people belonged to the Pharaoh.

    The Egyptians honored wealth without greed. Hades was their god of wealth. RA was the main god. The word RA means “Knowledge”. You were born without knowledge. So, the only knowledge you were able to get in your lifetime came from the god RA. It was believed that greed destroys knowledge. Therefore, the whole civilization had the goal of fighting greed.

    The Greeks and Romans were not that superstitious, so they had to develop another pathway. The knowledge of the Egyptians was kept in the heart. The brain served no purpose. Whereas the Greeks understood the function of the brain.

    #303426

    N0t really – it’s about considering the substance, or lack thereof, of this miscreant America placed in the Oval Office.

     

    Thanks for asking about the cast system.   I was going to ask Mike if he knew anything about the cast system, but deleted it.

    Not that we don’t have a class system with barriers, but  “cast system” – seriously?  But, then considering Mike’s typical disconnected mumbo-jumbo, guess it works.

     

    #303429

    MikeYohe
    Participant

    3 point

    “Caste can be controlled by good morals. You can even have good caste if you have good morals.”
    Since ‘caste’ is basing the hierarchy of a society on heredity, it is by definition immoral. Claiming it is moral or can be morally good is to not understand anything about morals and/or what ‘caste’ means.

    Until you learn what the words you use mean, you will continue to be wrong (or else correct by accident, which doesn’t count).

     

    Reincarnation is based upon the levels of caste. Which means a total number of 1.4 billion people believe in the caste system. That is not even counting that 25% of Christians believe in reincarnation.

    An example of caste being controlled by good morals. The Queen of England is controlled by good morals. If she did not have good morals, then I don’t believe she would be queen for long. Therefore, I could say the Queen’s caste is controlled by good morals.

    The idea here 3point is that congress can be considered upper caste, but they better have good morals. In one of Paul’s letters he mentioned the fourth level of heaven. You get to go up one level (caste) each reincarnation only if you have good morals.

    How morals figure into the civilizations? You can have the same Rules of Laws and other structures. But if you don’t have good morals then the civilization will still fail. The Jewish religion at the time of Jesus use scribes to interpret the rules of laws. Jesus point was that could not be done. That is like having every attorney being able to interpret the laws to their understandings. Therefore, if any law had to be interpreted it must use a system. We call that the supreme court. Jesus’s point was that even the upper caste could be bad and we needed a system of checks and balances.

    Note. My viewpoint (only) about how the caste system got started. In pre-history there was the upper and lower gods. God was a term that meant “knowledge”. So how did this work? And why was there no writing system? I believe there were people with hyperthymesia genes. And the ones with the best memory were upper gods or upper knowledge.

    #303430

    MikeYohe
    Participant

    That one guy,

    That’s besides the point of this thread and false in any case. Military spending is primarily a necessity of US geopolitical reality (“we are the worlds policeman”). Further down the list is filling the bank accounts of the defense industry and then maybe job creation. If it prevents depressions as you say, that’s just an after effect.

    You are giving the government to much credit. If that was the case, why would they just not keep all the areas running well all the time? Why wait until a recession?

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