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When It’s Time to Go


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  • #334806
    @thatoneguy
    Participant

    I don’t want to derail the thread into ww2 discussion but the reasons we got involved in the war were economical. We weren’t trying to save the world from fascism or any other boomer hollywood nonsense.  Nice had nothing to do with it.

    #334817
    @lausten
    Keymaster

    Yeah, we conquered the world in a nice way instead of a mean way.

    I agree that was sarcasm timb. The devil is in the details of “conquer”. We could have conquered the world with better irrigation, democratic processes, participatory socialism, including women in leadership, and using science to understand sexuality instead of sticking to Biblical traditions, but instead we bombed the things we didn’t like. This pattern began in 381 AD and continues to this day. It is cyclically a failure, it destroys resources in its wake and blames others for the problems it causes. We could survive as a species for at least 200,000 years and leave a decent planet for something else to evolve or we could “conquer” it all and leave mostly rubble.

    #334819
    @widdershins
    Participant

    I don’t want to derail the thread into ww2 discussion but the reasons we got involved in the war were economical. We weren’t trying to save the world from fascism or any other boomer hollywood nonsense. Nice had nothing to do with it.

    There were a lot of reasons we got into WWII, including the facts that Japan brought us into the war and England agreed to give us all the top secret technology they were working on, most importantly radar, that they didn’t have the manufacturing capacity to build.  But no, we weren’t white knights or anything.

    #334828
    @timb
    Participant

    But no, we weren’t white knights or anything.

    Rewrite history, anyone?

    Were we the horrible people who were putting millions of jews, gays, and retarded people in camps and making them slaves, starving them, medically experimenting on them and gassing them to death, men, women, and children?

    Were we the horrible people who viciously raped and murdered the people of Nanking?

    Were we the monsters who initiated the hostile and deadly takeover of other countries in an aim for world domination?

    No we were the monsters who ended the war, they started, for good and all, with the nuking of 2 Japanese cities.

    Yeah, we did some bad things for good reasons.  They did a lot more bad things for bad reasons.

    Must we always repeat the truism that nobody is perfect, everytime the fascists try to expand their power?  Must we say that there are good people on both sides? Or the corollary that there is no one perfect on either side?

    Is that truth? I don’t think that an implication of false equivalencies between evil and imperfect comprises truth.

     

     

    #334832
    @thatoneguy
    Participant

    I agree that was sarcasm timb. The devil is in the details of “conquer”. We could have conquered the world with better irrigation, democratic processes, participatory socialism, including women in leadership, and using science to understand sexuality instead of sticking to Biblical traditions, but instead we bombed the things we didn’t like. This pattern began in 381 AD and continues to this day. It is cyclically a failure, it destroys resources in its wake and blames others for the problems it causes. We could survive as a species for at least 200,000 years and leave a decent planet for something else to evolve or we could “conquer” it all and leave mostly rubble.

    Holy s***, we’re lucky most people don’t share your bizarre values.

    #334834
    @lausten
    Keymaster

    Just to be clear, you think these

    better irrigation, democratic processes, participatory socialism, including women in leadership, and using science to understand sexuality

    are bizarre?

    The only one i thought might require some fleshing out was participatory socialism.

    #334844
    @timb
    Participant

    What is bizarre is oneguy being so wrong-headed as to think those are bizarre values.

    But then I suppose he is committed to 3rd Reich type values, and considers that to be the norm.

    #334856
    @sree
    Participant

    The way this thread is derailing into fascist hate and social doom shows that 60 is the time to go and any attempt to extend life beyond 70 must be prohibited. I did enjoy listening to my grandma ramble and felt no need to throw her over the cliff even though she was way past 80. She was reminiscing, taking me down memory lane to the good old days of the USA.

    #334862
    @timb
    Participant

    any attempt to extend life beyond 70 must be prohibited.

    Florida retirees, and all recipients of Medicare and Social Security, Vote for Biden/Harris if you want to live another 4 years.  The tRump lovers say your time is up!!!

     

    #334865
    @3point14rat
    Participant

    What disgusts me more than the utter lack of morals and empathy exhibited by some people here is the fact they feel no compunction about spewing it out as though it’s acceptable in a civilized society.

    I wish I didn’t come on here right before I take off for the weekend. Ugh!

    #334870
    @timb
    Participant

    Have a nice weekend, 3point.

    #334874
    @thatoneguy
    Participant

    Just to be clear, you think these

    better irrigation, democratic processes, participatory socialism, including women in leadership, and using science to understand sexuality

    are bizarre?

    The only one i thought might require some fleshing out was participatory socialism.

    Engineering skills like better irrigation are beyond any “values”, but the rest are garbage.

    #334876
    @lausten
    Keymaster

    but the rest are garbage. — oneguy

    I didn’t say values were the way to conquer the world. So, I got it, democracy, science and equality are “garbage” to you. Thanks for being so clear about what I’ve suspected all along.

    #334881
    @lausten
    Keymaster

    The US after Sree and Oneguy run for office.

    https://www.imdb.com/title/tt8772262/

     

    #334900

    yipes.

    Could make it a double feature and add https://www.sparknotes.com/lit/flies/

     

     

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