• Write4U replied to the topic universal consciousness vs. individual consciousness in the forum Religion and Secularism 1 day, 18 hours ago

    In regard to Individual consciousness.

    The above is a possible physical mechanism for a resultant consciousness even as it might be considered a hive-mind, with limited processing powers except for humans who acquired a large brain and processing power as a result of an evolutionary mutation The fusion of 2 ancestral chromosomes into a single modern human chromosome.

    The authors of the 1982 Science paper had no hesitancy in declaring that “the telomeric fusion of chromosomes 2p and 2q accounts for the reduction of the 24 pairs of chromosomes of the great apes to 23 in modern man.” But they could not confirm this with the high-powered techniques of modern genetics.

    In a 2005 study published in Nature, however, the “precise fusion site” was located on human chromosome 2. The paper noted the presence of “multiple subtelomeric duplications” in this location (i.e., the expected telomere DNA) and also the vestiges of a second centromere on the chromosome that has since been “inactivated” (represented by the orange region above). In a 2012 study, meanwhile, an international team of scientists published a more detailed evolutionary account of how modern-day versions of human, chimpanzee, and gorilla chromosomes attained their current form. (For an easy-to-understand explanation of what they found, see here.)

    This Picture Has Creationists Terrified

    IMO, this fusion of two chromosomes was the foundation for modern human ability to develop a larger more complex brain structure and the beginning of a physical network capable of  “abstract thought” at much higher levels than mere sensory awareness of the environment, which begins at very primitive levels.

    It also would suggest that a physical information processing center is required for high level experiential information processing as is evident in all Prokaryotic and Eukaryotic organisms.

    In regard to Universal consciousness.

    What would be the physical mechanism that results in more than just deterministic cause/effect and is capable of  not just “information sharing” but has the ability for “abstract thought” and intentional behaviors beyond mere survival techniques.

    Bohm proposed the concept of a self-referential “Wholeness” from which a form of geometric “Insight Intelligence” emerged, the fundamental mathematical pattern which was causal to our current reality.

    That sounds profound, but what is the mechanism which makes all this physically possible? I prefer to think of something mathematical in essence.